firefox vs Debian

There is a nice post about the Firefox / Debian discusion. I do use both of them, and while at my Xubuntu box, it fells awkward clicking the non-firefox icon to launch Firefox. That said, I think both sides are right, and the way i see it, i'm afraid i won't see the Firefox icon on Xubuntu. Even more, Firefox at Debian will not be Firefox anymore

Also, as a side note, i really agree with Adam when he does post this:

# Adam Says: September 28th, 2006 at 12:33 am

Luis > I’m mostly aware of how copyright and TM are different and being used against each other here. AFAICT, it’s pretty much how Mozilla is capable of shipping stuff under the GPL (a copyright license) but still preventing people from exercising the rights the GPL is supposed to grant them. (using TM law)

The point is that Mozilla claims to release Firefox under the GPL (which is DFSG-friendly), but prevents some GPL-granted uses of the work (which is not DFSG-friendly). Therefore Debian will, in a positive step protecting its and its users right to freely modify and redistribute the software in its main archive, either remove Firefox or fork it.

(And I say “prevents” instead of just “threatens” as the threat of unleashing the dogs of law can be almost as bad as actually doing so. I’m not that involved in Debian, but I’m pretty sure that no-one there wants to take things as far as court to find out which way it might go. If a developer wants to take them to court over them using their software, I’m pretty sure they’ll figure it’s not worth it and just drop the package. If the developer doesn’t want you to use their software *that* much, it’s not really Free anyway, is it? Mozilla are effectively preventing Debian from using Firefox.)

so let's just wait to see how Firefox is dropped from Debian, time will tell.